The following is a short but incisive interview with author C.B. Robertson.
I became familiar with his work in the last month or two and wanted to interview him, as he is yet another example of this great rising wave of young Identitarian authors. I think its clear he will have an excellent future as an author as his writing is (in my opinion) superb.
Here is the interview:
C.B.- thank you again for doing this interview!
Thanks so much for having me.
Could you tell us about your background?
Well, I dropped out of school when I realized that the higher education system in America was essentially evil. I’ve been a trucker, a trim carpenter, and an exterminator while I’ve been reading and writing. I’m currently 26 years old, married, and couldn’t be happier with how life has treated me.
How did you become passionate about/focused on the situation in Europe?
My introduction to conservativism generally began with a British journalist named Douglas Murray, who was documenting the problems of multiculturalism and Islam specifically. This was back around 2013, and it was an incredibly unpopular view in the United States, where multiculturalism was not only accepted, but revered as though it were a kind of founding philosophy. To me, Europe seemed to be a kind of canary in the coal mine for the United States, and it continues to be something like that to this day, except that for me, the seriousness is inverted, since Europe actually has only a small portion of the cultural and ethnic fragmentation that the United States is eventually going to have to deal with.
Can you tell us about your book, In Defense Of Hatred?
I really noticed this argument against hatred as an emotion in the aftermath of the Bataclan massacre, and it just struck me as an awful argument. After doing a little bit of research, I realized that literally no one had ever bothered to defend the emotion and faculty of hatred, which most people had simply accepted as a sort of defect of human nature. I figured someone ought to do it, so it may as well be me. In short, my argument is that it’s impossible to get any kind of serious love without the latent potential for hatred, so for the sake of passionate love and loyalty, we should embrace the aspect of ourselves that seeks to defend what we love, and not shy away from it. At the same time, we should understand the weaknesses that can accompany hatred so that we can mitigate the dangers of getting trapped in hatred or of becoming resentful and bitter.
What are some of your current focuses, what are you working on now?
I’m currently working on a theory of transgenerational ethics, which defends the concept of legacy against the ideal of equality.
Where do you see Western Europe, specifically countries like France/Sweden/UK/Germany, in 5-15 years?
I think Europe is actually going to have an easier time of things than the United States. It will probably shift suddenly and decisively to the right sometime in the next few years, and the immigration problem will vanish surprisingly quickly. Some countries that took in more migrants, such as Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK, will have a harder time recovering, but on the whole, I think Europe will survive, because it hasn’t taken in that many immigrants proportional to its native population, at least not at the moment. The United States is a more complicated and uncertain story.
What about America?
It’s hard to see how America won’t avoid another civil war in the next 10-20 years. We’ve taken in over 65 million people, and we’re simply no longer a cohesive nation. I’m optimistic about my own bioregion, the Pacific Northwest, but I’m not optimistic about the cohesiveness of the country as a whole in the long run.
What gives you the most hope regarding the situation in Europe/the broader Occident today?
It’s incredibly inspiring and encouraging to see how open people are to new ideas. Far more people are open to identitarian ideas—and anti-PC ideas generally—then they’ll let on in public. We’re in a situation where the ostensible data is not accurate as a reflection of political opinions, and our enemies are consistently overestimating their own power as a result.
If someone is reading this and really wants to fight back and fight for our people’s future, the future of Europe, etc, where do you think they should start?
They should start with themselves. They should clean their room, work out, read books, and put their attention into their work and the relationships that are important to them. Once they get all of that in order, they can focus on larger political problems. Our enemies do not do this, and it shows. Their worldview is antithetical to the things that really matter, and we shouldn’t forget what it’s all about in the pursuit of more abstract goals.
What is something you are passionate about that is seldom discussed on websites/by writers in our movement?
Ironically, I enjoy learning about other peoples. I took 4 years of Japanese, and I’ve enjoyed reading about African and Mesopotamian stories and mythologies. To me, there is no contradiction between learning about others and loving your own people, because through learning about others, you understand the fundamental differences between different peoples. For me, the liberal notion of openness and inclusion was always superficial and empty in this regard. They look for similarities, rather than for essential differences and distinctions, and for what makes different peoples unique.
How has your personal life and decisions in life/lifestyle been affected by your Identitarian politics?
It’s chilled familial relations, certainly, and it has ended a few relationships. But for every one it has closed, it has opened another one with a stranger I didn’t know before. I don’t view it as a positive or a negative, just a byproduct of pursuing truth. I’m fortunate, because I fled from academia before I encountered identitarianism in a real way, so I’ve been living my life in a way that can endure being an open identitarian in a way that most people cannot.
Identitarianism as a philosophy has clarified my priorities in life, and while it’s definitely been a hardship in many social spheres, it’s a burden I enjoy carrying.
How can people reading this support you and your work?
People can check out my book In Defense of Hatred, and if it looks useful to them, they can purchase it and leave a review on Amazon. More importantly, they can take an inventory of what really matters to them, what they’re loyal to over what’s truly important, and re-orient their loyalty according to what they’ll remember on their deathbed. People live as though the present moment is all they have, and I think real identitarianism means living with other people in a way that leaves us all more driven, more purposeful, and more proud of our own life decisions. Presently, we end up with more toys, and with less social friction, but with less conviction and with more depression, and it isn’t good for our nation, nor is it good for our souls as individuals.
Any closing thoughts?
Thanks so much for all the work you do, and keep it up, no matter the pressures. If it weren’t for the threats and the dangers, it wouldn’t be as glorious and as thrilling work anyways!
Big thanks to C.B. for doing this interview! I would encourage anyone reading this to buy the book and then post a review of it on Amazon. Actually reviewing books from writers in our movement on Amazon is one of the easiest ways to ‘help the cause’ that exists. The algorithms Amazon uses to show and suggest books are based in large measure on number of reviews, so every review you write likely ends up putting that book in front of an extra 50-100+ potential readers a year, and thereby spreading the truths of our movement.
Also, I wanted to re-link to an interesting article the esteemed Dashui linked to in the comments section, as it is on the same topic as Mr. Robertson’s book: http://www.ecosophia.net/hate-new-sex/