What We Can Extrapolate From ‘The Atlas Of European Values’

What We Can Extrapolate From ‘The Atlas Of European Values’
April 29, 2017 Admin

Recently I was exposed to something called the ‘Atlas of European Values’. I can’t remember where I heard about it (could have been one of the readers of this site), but I had the chance to explore it today and it is an extremely cool resource.

It is basically an interactive website based primarily on lots of statistics about Europe that can be overlayed on a map of Europe to provide visual representations of public opinion. What is so cool about it is 1) the vast number of questions they have data on, and 2) that the map (and statistics) are broken down not just by country but by region, so for most major European countries you can see data on anywhere from 4-15 different parts of the country.

Their website can be found here, and their home page introduces the project as follows:

Welcome to the educational website of the Atlas of European Values!

The European Values Study explores Europeans� attitudes about religion, politics, work, society, family and Europe. The results are represented in maps that clearly show patterns and trends across Europe. This website offers several tools to compare maps or create new ones.

These maps can be used in education and in this website we offer a variety of examples of how that could be done. In addition there is a range of videos of young Europeans discussing their perspectives on some of the questions of the European Values Study. The maps, the videos and the strategies, lesson plans and assignments can be used to make engaging lessons that explore what we understand by Europe.

I spent quite a bit of time on the site seeing what I could learn, and those observations are broken down in this post.


What The Maps Say

There are a number of random, interesting observations. I will go over those first, and the more important ones down below.

In the ‘Work’ section, on the statement ‘You should follow your supervisor’s instructions only when you think they are right’ most people agreed with the statement (suggesting they wouldn’t follow bad orders just because they were told to do so) but the Swedes, Norwegians, and Germans all expressed HIGH disagreement, which would seem to suggest they are the least free-thinking and the most inclined to rigidly obey authority.

On attitudes toward welfare and the question of ‘Receiving money without having worked for it is humiliating’ most Western Europeans slightly disagreed, most Eastern Europeans and the Turks and Russians slightly agreed, but the Italians for some reason HIGHLY agreed (which is good, score one for the Italians).

For one random black-pill only 2% of Swede’s agreed with the statement that ‘When jobs are scarce, men should have priority over women’.

Also in Sweden less than 10% of the people believe that ‘There are clear guidelines on what is good and what is evil’.

In two provinces of Germany over 40% of the people believe in reincarnation'(?).

Agreement with statement 'Democracy is the best system'.

Agreement with statement ‘Democracy is the best system’.

Different countries have different levels of belief in heaven, but every single country has a higher percentage of people that believe in heaven than hell (although the difference between the two ranges from only a couple points all the way up to 30-35.

One disappointment for me as an (ethnic) Norwegian is that more Norwegians support ‘Cheating on your taxes’ than do Italians(!), so that didn’t make me feel very good.

Also, shockingly, the Turks are apparently more honest on their taxes than any nation in all of Europe (although who knows there could always be language barriers on these things).


Regional Differences

On some we can see a strong west/east separation of opinion.

For instance, on the question of whether one ‘Believes prostitution can be justified’, there is near-unanimous disagreement across Eastern Europe and near-unanimous support throughout Western Europe. Only exceptions were Portugal which opposed and north-west Russia which supported. Other than that there is a violent clash of orange (support) and yellow (oppose) going north-south right through the middle of Europe.

The map indicating ‘Acceptance of homosexuality’ shows an equally stark west/east separation.

I expected a lot of north/south separation on questions about work, indicating the classic ‘relaxed’ (or lazy) Southern European stereotype. This existed to some degree but not as strongly as I expected. Also for interest sake, I expected Italy and Spain to be pretty similar on everything but Italy seemed to be consistently a little bit more conservative than Spain.

On the question of agreement with the statement ‘EU expansion means loss of national identity and culture’ the UK stands out like a giant purple triangle (or whatever shape the UK looks like), and their people had by far the strongest feelings on this and all the other EU questions, suggesting these polls prefigured or predicted Brexit (some of the data was collected eight years ago, some four years go, etc- its not all brand new).

Also for the record Finland was also pretty EU-negative, which I felt was promising.


Personal Biases

There are a number of maps based on answers to questions about personal inclination/biases/etc.

Here are some of the observations:

‘Would not want to have as a neighbor: people with large families’.

This one seems totally backwards actually, as most of the Europeans don’t care one bit, but the Turks are horrified of it. The Turks have seen their birthrates follow the same pattern as European ones in the last two decades though and they are now down to around 2.0 I believe, so perhaps this is reflective of that, but I would have bet money the results would have been the exact opposite. Actually I should note that the one European country that had some level of negative reaction was the UK but the rest were all bright yellow (unopposed to it).

‘Would not want to have as a neighbor: left-wing extremist; and ‘Would not want to have as a neighbor: right-wing extremist’.

Not much to learn on these. The Germans are horrified of both scenarios and stand out as a giant purple splotch for each. I guess that suggests confirmation of the stereotype of Germans being obsessed with appearances and orderliness and being kind of stiff and ornery.

Only other thing of note is that- as might be expected- the Swedes are very opposed to living near ‘right-wing extremists’ while the Visegrad’s are totally cool with the idea.

‘Would not want as a neighbor: Jews’

No opposition to living near Jews except in four places: Turkey (as expected), Albania (as expected), a corner of Russia, and… Estonia. Who knew Estonians were such closet Nazi’s….


Identity, Immigration, And The Future

Now, finally we come to the most important questions of all, which deal with immigration and attitudes toward it. This was what I was looking for from the beginning, hopeful the maps would provide valuable insights on the issue.

There are several maps I find particularly interesting in this regard.

The first is agreement with the question “Rising number of immigrants are a threat to society”.

The map shows Sweden as a big bright yellow spot, referencing the fact that only 36-48% of Swedes agree with the question. This marks them as by far the most supportive of immigration in Western Europe.

The rest of Western Europe all sits roughly in the middle, with some people agreeing and some disagreeing, roughly around the 50% mark. Russians and Visegrads agree with this statement, as expected, but the only other places that show agreement with it and do believe rising immigration is a threat to society are: 1) Austria, 2) far eastern Germany, and 3) the UK.

Indeed, if you subtract London, the UK is nothing but a solid mass of dark purple, signifying by far the highest levels of agreement with the statement, and an intense opposition to immigration.

A parallel question is that of agreement with the statement “There are too many immigrants in my country”.

Comparing this and the last one, we see that the Greeks don’t see immigrants as a threat by themselves per se, but feel there are way too many of them in Greece. Eastern Europe is the opposite, feeling that immigrants are a threat, but that there aren’t too many of them (which fortunately is still the case). Also in both these maps and many others, Norway continually comes up as a slightly less intense version of Sweden, consistently being about one shade darker.

There are a couple other similar map as well that I think are good indicators of the implicit ‘Identitarianism’ of each country.

The first is agreement with the statement that “It is very or quite important to have been born in a country to be a citizen of that country”, and the second is exactly the same but substitutes “have ancestors” for “be born in”.

The results are almost exactly the same on each. As expected, Eastern Europeans and Russians agree strongly with both statements. The Scandinavians and the French most disagree with them. The rest of Western Europe roughly agree except for, again, 1) Austria, 2) far east Germany, and 3) the UK.

On agreement with the statement ‘A country’s culture is undermined by immigrants’ the results are also the same. All of Western Europe disagrees, except for 1) Austria, 2) far east Germany, and 3) the UK, all of which strongly agree and stick out like crazy on the map.


What can we conclude from all of this?

A lot of the maps referenced at the top of this post contain obvious lessons, most of which confirm things people have believed about the various parts of Europe for a long time.

The questions on immigration however, are where the most interesting conclusions can be drawn.

The Swedes expressed the highest support for immigration.

The Swedes expressed the highest support for immigration.

In Western Europe, we have a number of countries well on their way to Islamization- such as France, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc, whose citizens seem totally supportive of it.

I think most of us would conclude from that that there is little hope in those countries. If they have suffered massive levels of terrorism, crime, Muslim rape epidemics, and everything else under the sun, and their citizens are still claiming high levels of acceptance of immigration, and acting like the importation of millions of Muslims is just fine, then their fate is far less hopeful than we would like it to be.

In Eastern Europe, I think these maps corroborate the hope we already find however. Many of the Visegrad governments are at the forefront of European-Preservationism, and these statistics suggest they have the strong support of their citizens.

As long as they can ward off the aggressions of those like Merkel and Soros that seek to effect their take-over and Islamization, they are in a position to keep the torch of Western Civilization alive, and exist as European homelands for decades to come, even as those aforementioned countries like Sweden and Switzerland fall into oblivion and endure horrors of untold magnitude.

Both those observations involve confirmations, but where these maps are most interesting is where they present contradictions and incongruities.

The most prominent of these is that fact that Austria, far east Germany, and the UK are all places experiencing very high levels of immigration and Islamization, yet all stand out as regions where opposition to those things runs extremely high. They also all rank high on those maps I labelled as indicating a propensity toward Identitarian thinking.

Those are the observations that I find most interesting.

We here on this site often discuss the future of Western Europe, the fact that its countries are ‘past the voting stage’, and wonder about which if any of them may fight back. For the only hope most of them have is if their native citizens rebel against their governments, or take advantage of a coming period of anarchy to install a new kind of government which will ensure their survival.

Obviously we must take the statistics and maps from this resource with a grain of salt, and acknowledge they are likely imperfect. However with that disclaimer, I think we can extrapolate and conclude that of all the places in Western Europe, the UK, Austria, and far east Germany may be the most likely to eventually fight back.

It will be interesting to keep this in mind over the next year/several years and see if it indeed does pan out like that. I certainly hope it does, and that the trajectories of those places match the desires of their people rather than the intentions of their traitorous leaders.





Editor’s Note: Going to put this on the home page soon but until then just gonna paste it at the bottom of each post for anyone who didn’t see it before.

Comments (12)

  1. gris bosque 9 months ago

    This is a depressing report to read as a person with European roots and who lived in Europe many years as a kid, and traveled widely there.

    The good news is that like all studies it’s a window in time. Everything fluxes, cycles, ebbs and flows. And if done today, tomorrow, or five years from now the maps would be different.

    What we are seeing I think, is the results of the money transfer from western civilization to the mid east. Some of that money is being used to finance the Islamic invasion. The best way to fight it, is attack the financial base. Saudi Arabia is on the edge, and using nearly half its oil output for national consumption.

    The answer is for every good man, to get off their aft end mentally, And unplug themselves from the oil pipeline in their own lives. Electric cars, solar panels, passive solar. or even go mobile and minimalist. Which would probably be the wise course for identarians.

    “Never sacrifice mobility for security.”

    is an old warrior’s axiom. Castles are traps. Many in the US now are going neo-nomadic.

    Would also like to mention that men really should be armed. And that I think too many are fixated by guns. Which invites an attitude problem actually lowering survival stats.

    Traditional organic weapons worked efficiently for thousands of years, required no factories, and didn’t cause the ego trips guns do. If you are fighting for survival traps are more effective than tanks.

    I suggest that identarians use the power of going retro if they are limited from accessing fire arms. And I am saying this as a “Deplorable” Western American gun buff.

    get what you can get, get good at using it. This is better than having nothing thinking to be able to get something when Anarchy arrives.

    Organic weapons are powerful. A broad head on a silent shaft kills at a hundred yards today just as well as it did a thousand years ago. And can be used to get the guns.

    • Author
      Admin 9 months ago

      Well I am still far from where I want to be but I have been taking my four year old hiking alot, and am getting closer to joining a gun or hunting club. Although I lack your actual knowledge on these subjects I think your argument on bows vs guns makes sense. Have also decided not to live in the suburbs or a neighborhood but to hold off for something secluded/on land, even if only a couple acres. Although your point on the need to be nomadic in a period of intense destabilization also makes sense.

      I didn’t necessarily find all of the statistics on the atlas depressing. I think it was a pretty mixed bag. Would indeed be interesting, as you alluded to, to see the changes on them over time. I very much wonder if a comparison of ten years ago to today on some of the questions would reflect ‘K-Selection’ or whether the answers would be the same…

  2. Rick 9 months ago

    The introduction video on that site is about 5:22 and of that approx :20 is devoted to the values of 2 white males.
    The propaganda is just relentless.

    • Author
      Admin 9 months ago

      I didn’t notice that lol. But yes you could tell it was a pretty leftist in tone. Those left-wing NGO’s over there have so much power its just insane. As we see by their total and utter collusion with the ‘people smugglers’ to flood Italy and Greece with migrants!

  3. SteveRogers42 9 months ago
  4. Freddy 9 months ago

    It is true that in the eastern part of Germany the antagonism and the resistance to the mass immigration are the greatest, although the proportion of strangers is comparatively low. This is also the case with the Eastern European countries. It is therefore often argued that this resistance is irrational. Another, more logical, explanation is, however, that resistance can only form where there is still a relatively homogenous indigenous population.

    Because of the tax discipline of the Norwegians I would not worry. This could be linked to the fact that many taxpayers have already recognized that a large proportion of these taxes are not used in their own interest. What should apply today to most welfare states. I also believe that the willingness to pay voluntary taxes to the general public and the ethnic homogeneity of a population is linked

    • Author
      Admin 9 months ago

      Yes you gotta love the brash tenacity of liberals don’t you? “You are only racist and disliking of Muslim immigrants because you don’t have any there. You are being irrational. Here, we will send a couple hundred thousand over there so you can realize their no different than us and quit being so bigoted.”

      And then yes, I think you make an excellent point in the second paragraph on taxes. I would wager there is a direct correlation between the ‘diversity’ of a nation and the attitude of its citizens toward taxes. All comes down to asabiya right.

      Any thoughts on the coming French election Freddy?

      • Freddy 9 months ago

        Well, I’m pessimistic. If there was a clear first place in the first round, the chances would be good. But as things stand, victory is unlikely. Would be nice if I were deceived.

        • Author
          Admin 9 months ago

          Yes, very true.

          Actually it seems a lot of the mainstream leftist news outlets are starting to worry a bit, but I still think its unlikely she wins.

          Will be excitedly watching the results though!

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